Two Guys Talking About Beating Cancer

Ok, so we talk about more than beating cancer. But if not for Bill's diagnosis in 2017, we wouldn't be here talking at all. And while it's true that living healthier can help stave off chronic disease and cancer, if there's one thing we've learned since 2017, it's how everything we do--every decision we make--makes a difference to living well.

Click on any episode below to hear us discuss how we continue to learn to make the best decisions possible. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you may even learn something. 


Depression: AKA The Covid Hangover
Season 2, Episode 2

During the pandemic, depression cases tripled by volume.   Bill and Frank discuss the different types of depression and how the disease has affected both of them in their lives.   If you are a person that is having dramatic mood swings, feeling like the world is against you, not being able to get the energy to get out of bed (I think I am going to watch Netflix again all day), or having trouble controlling your temper check with your doctor, you could have clinical depression and it can be treated.

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By listening to this podcast you agree not to use this Podcast as medical advice to treat any medical condition for your or other.   Consult a Physician for any conditions you may be having.

Fear: What do you do when you are scared of dying?
Season 2, Episode 1


Frank realizes he under estimated how easy it is to breathe through and to become positive when someone tells you that you are are dying.   This episode is an eye opening example of Frank dealing with the fear that he told us that we should overcome in Season One.   If you listen to any episode it should be this one, Fear is is excitement without breathing

Season 1 Finale…Creating a Plan to Heal
Season 1, Episode 11


Season 1 comes to an end for DMT with an episode that puts it all together into a step by step plan of attack to heal.   The HEALIX program is a methodology that allows people to develop a process that promotes healing but more importantly fits into their lifestyle.

H   Hope
E    Explore
A    Analyze
L     Learn
I      Improve
X    Execute Consistently

Executing consistently is the key to any program.

By listening to this podcast you agree not to use this Podcast as medical advice to treat any medical condition for your or other.   Consult a Physician for any conditions you may be having. 

Happiness…will the Chappelle Show heal you?
Season 1, Episode 10

Bill and Frank discuss how finding what makes you happy in life will give your body the energy to help it heal.  Can laughter heal your soul?  Tune in and listen how it changed Bill’s life.


Radical Remission:
Think and Grow Rich

Power of Positive Thinking


Season 1, Episode 9

Bill discusses the critical role that sleep plays during chemotherapy. Creating great sleeping habits is as vital, if not more important, than any other facet of recovery.   Your body recovers, grows, and heals while you sleep.

How to Sleep Well by Dr Neil Stanley


Exercise: How to exercise during Chemo
Season 1, Episode 8

As a former college football player, Bill was always strong and able-bodied. To say that cancer affected his physical strength is an understatement. How can anyone be expected to keep up their strength to exercise when chemo is killing not only the cancer cells, but muscle cells as well? Bill discusses his challenges with exercise and how he built a plan that worked.

Season 1, Episode 7

With snake oil salesmen at every turn, you can spend thousands of dollars on supplements that do absolutely nothing for you. Bill discusses how he cut through this nonsense and discovered supplements that actually helped his healing through chemo.

You Are What You Eat
Season 1, Episode 6

With so many fad diets and quick-fix cleanses out there, it’s tough to know what’s right for you. Especially when you’re battling cancer. Bill discusses his dietary routines, the challenges of making changes, and how all of this affected him mentally during his chemotherapy treatments.

Detox and Your Immune System
Season 1, Episode 5

When Bill left the hospital he was told to eat anything he wanted. “Weight gain is what you need to stay healthy,” he was told. Had Bill followed that suggestion, he would be dead today. Bill discusses how he strengthened his body for the cancer fight he embarked on in 2017.